With the recent shooting there has been a lot of spin put on demonizing the shooter. Its easy to understand why, nobody likes a mass murderer. But with the sensationalistic reporting and the focus on the shooter having psychological problems I've been bothered by attempts to gloss over who the guy was and present black and white ideas like "keep guns away from psycho people" and things like that as if that would have actually solved anything. A lot of conclusions have been jumped to and a lot of bad reporting is happening. I had a few thoughts.
There have been media reports that the shooter had "a personality disorder" or "undifferentiated mental problems" but the only specific information that seems to have come out yet is that he was diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome. First, Asperger Syndrome is not a personality disorder. I'm not going to go into defining it now (as if that were even relevant with the DSM-V coming out) but reporting it so many different ways was kind of dumb to begin with-probably just a consequence of the news trying to get out the information faster than they could verify it. Apparently they haven't even verified the autism spectrum diagnosis, that's speculation based on publicly observed behavior which has no more verification to its reporting than early reports this his mother was a school teacher, that his brother was the shooter, or that he was dressed in a military style outfit, none of which apparently was true but got reported anyways.
Second, it has been emphasized in some reports that Asperger Syndrome is not correlated with violent crime and that the violent crime in question would be more likely to be done by someone with depression. I'm happy that some media outlets have taken the time to mention that violence with weapons is not specifically common in Autistics, but the reporting on that end was about as simplistic in a good way as the reports slanted at making him sound "psycho" were simplistically bad. First, in any large population you will find people with more or less violent tendencies. Saying that Autism disorders are not correlated with gun violence is like saying that the average joe won't steal your lunch. A few average joes will steal your lunch, most won't. Second, saying that the shooting would be more likely done by someone with depression ignores the fact that the rate of depression among people with Asperger Syndrome is pretty high. I haven't been able to find solid statistics on suicide but from what I've found the anecdotal evidence with Asperger Syndrome also shows a high suicide rate. I even found one website that said the suicide rate was likely under reported because the adults with Asperger Syndrome are often undiagnosed and therefore not showing up in suicide statistics.
In the reports about his mothers gun collection one nuance is getting left out. One of Tony Attwood's books recommended watching out for any obsessions with weapons because that could be a warning sign that the child is thinking about taking revenge on the bullies in his/her life. Since the gun collecting was already a family hobby its possible that this warning sign wouldn't have functioned. That isn't to say that she shouldn't have had a right to own a gun collection or that having a child with a mental disability should disqualify you from gun ownership, its just a nuance that is overlooked in the reporting. Granted, at 20 something the shooter wasn't exactly looking for revenge against 1st grade bullies. My guess is that the kid had a really horrible experience going through elementary school and wanted to go destroy anybody he could find at the school as a way of expressing his anger at the school he grew up in. Most people talk about how horrible their middle school years were, I wouldn't know because I was home schooled starting about half way through my last year of elementary school. However, I can remember one of my favorite things about switching to homeschooling at first was that I had a chance to simply relax and let go of a lot of anger and hatred that had been building up towards my peers. Since all of the people who had teased or ignored me or simply failed to be able to be my friend were no longer part of my life I could simply let go. It was a long time before I realized that the bad experiences I had
in elementary school were largely caused by my being unable to cope with the
social environment rather than it being an environment
that was toxic in general.
My experience in elementary school was bad enough that I had stopped hoping to find new friends and I had several incidents in a row where I tried to befriend someone based on the fact that they had not made fun of me in the past and they started making fun of me as a result-apparently to teach me to show my distance so that their social standing wouldn't be hurt by my attention. I pretty much had come to the conclusion that no matter what new people I met I wouldn't find any more friends beyond the few I already had. I won't say that homeschooling solved my life problems- homeschooling was hell in some other ways and I'm not sure which set of experiences would have been more emotionally damaging over time- staying in public school or homeschooling. By the time I left home I struggled with believing that in certain specific ways I was a worthless human being and didn't deserve respect from other people. And that was somewhat up from my mid teens when I frequently believed I was completely worthless and didn't deserve to live. The last pieces of that feeling of worthlessness didn't fall away until maybe a year or two before getting married.
A lot of reports are talking as if the shooter was a thoroughly evil psychopath who should have been obvious to identify and therefore treated through better public mental programs or prevented from owning any guns (which ignores the fact that they were his moms guns, not his). And while murdering tons of little kids is definitely and thoroughly evil, I have trouble seeing the man behind the shootings as pure evil. I tend to see someone whose life had been hell. Someone who one day snapped and lashed out at his mother who may have been an angelic caretaker or an infantalizing-you'll-never-achieve-anything-demon-hiding-in-mommy's-social-respectability. Or maybe a little of both, humans are complicated. Having murdered her I suspect he kind of said to himself that as long as he was that evil he might as well take out as many people as he could in a place he hated before he killed himself. Probably if he hadn't snapped on that day he would have eventually found some firmer ground for himself, life would have gotten better in some ways eventually. Perhaps he could have done about anything, it sounds like the guy was brilliant. If he had held on for just a little bit longer... but he didn't and he went out in a way that will make it harder to tell stories of people like him without stigma following them. I just don't see the pure evil that makes good news headlines. I see someone who maybe was a little bit or even a lot like me-that failed to hold on and reacted violently. Its true there is nothing about the Asperger syndrome that makes you inherently more violent than anyone else, but if its true he had it we can imagine his life had some pretty hard knocks involved in just getting through the normal world on a regular basis.
Monday, December 24, 2012
Sunday, December 2, 2012
Can you love those you do not know?
Last week in Sunday School the teacher asked why people doubted the church. One of the audience members appeared set on taking a hardline position on the subject in his comments, giving reasons as examples which called into question the person doubting instead of the situation in which the doubt arose. For example, he remarked that people doubted the church to provide justification for their pursuit of a hedonistic lifestyle. I had to chuckle at that, as my own periods of doubt have been characterized by gut wrenching soul searching, not so much hedonism.
It was another of those moments that I try to ignore because the teacher really has more power than I do to provide a welcoming or unwelcoming atmosphere for such comments and the question didn't seem worth investing in enough to try to come up with a bunch of alternate view comments. What are my views? Though this area is complicated and bigger than you can capture in just a few sentences, I think people doubt the church because the grey area between where the divine revelation stops and the imperfect culturally influenced crazy normal people begins is so fuzzy. Where exactly the line is is not an area for black and white thinking, and reasonable people can disagree on whether there is any divine element at all. We are, after all, human. When we only provide lip service to the concept of the church being made up of imperfect people who are still people, then when their occasional lack of godliness becomes too obvious to ignore it can generate doubts. When it comes down to it, some things deserve to be doubted.
I remember listening to these comments in Sunday School about how people doubt because of their personal failings and thinking that the man must never have had a heart to heart conversation with someone who was actually doubting or had given up faith. Or if he had, his need to judge people whose views threatened his own overshadowed his ability to listen. Perhaps its a form of "Confirmation Bias," where maybe he just tended to only associate with people or remember things about them that reinforce his own views because he is human, and as a result just doesn't know people who have serious doubts or perhaps ignores those doubts and as a result doesn't know the people as complete human beings. When you allow yourself not to know someone, you remove the possibility of loving them in a concrete way that would actually matter as much to the person on the receiving end. You could easily love them as abstractions whom you wish to have plenty of calories and shelter, but not the kind of love where the person feels you know who they are, what matters to them, and can sympathize with the personal goals and ideals they have that separate them as an individual from all of humanity.
Even though I tend to be somewhat terrified of establishing real human connections to the people around me on a daily basis, I value the small ways that I can find to give myself a human connection to people whose lives are hurt by the way the word exists. So I can read a biography about a civil rights lawyer and start to imagine the inner mind set and priorities of people to whom the events of the civil rights movement weren't simply a mildly interesting past. I can learn to identify how my own mind has been poisoned by a subconscious racism and start to question how that makes me relate to the class Teaching Assistant or to the man sitting next to me at the airport. I've listened to how homosexuals can describe a quest for self actualization and acceptance using arguments that are exact mirrors of what I might use to describe a need for self actualization and acceptance for autistics and start to let go of fear and question just how concrete the barriers that supposedly divide us are. Then, when coworkers start berating a bisexual employee who just came out of the closet at work, I can realize that that employee is doing a kind of reaching into darkness that I might do when I take a chance on letting someone know that I am on the autistic spectrum. There are many kinds of closets to come out of, and people who have shared a sense of isolation and darkness can help each other out.
I can read accounts of women whose quests for self fulfillment have been hampered on so many sides by a society that historically has made a lot of choices for them to benefit someone else. Then, when I hear someone say that perhaps the world needs to be changed to loosen things up a bit I can see and hear the idea with eyes and ears not just my own, but also of the people who have been hurt. I can talk to friends and family members who have doubts or who have abandoned faith and cherish having a chance to know a little bit more of who they are, not just who the talks given by church leaders and members say they should be.
That isn't to say that I am particularly skilled at listening and loving. I'm fully capable of being an ignorant oaf and am poor at regulating the perceptions I broadcast to other people. I can count plenty of occasions when I've been trying to connect to people and what came out was more or less horrible. But I feel if I don't try I won't simply be stumbling into the occasional serious social error, I actually will be horrible.
If we cut ourselves off from listening to those who we don't understand or don't lack overt differences with we fail to know them and instead know only the false images of them we create in our mind to provide for our own mental security. We can never fully know another person just as we can never fully know ourselves. But, to the extent that we are willfully ignorant of other people, we cannot love them.
It was another of those moments that I try to ignore because the teacher really has more power than I do to provide a welcoming or unwelcoming atmosphere for such comments and the question didn't seem worth investing in enough to try to come up with a bunch of alternate view comments. What are my views? Though this area is complicated and bigger than you can capture in just a few sentences, I think people doubt the church because the grey area between where the divine revelation stops and the imperfect culturally influenced crazy normal people begins is so fuzzy. Where exactly the line is is not an area for black and white thinking, and reasonable people can disagree on whether there is any divine element at all. We are, after all, human. When we only provide lip service to the concept of the church being made up of imperfect people who are still people, then when their occasional lack of godliness becomes too obvious to ignore it can generate doubts. When it comes down to it, some things deserve to be doubted.
I remember listening to these comments in Sunday School about how people doubt because of their personal failings and thinking that the man must never have had a heart to heart conversation with someone who was actually doubting or had given up faith. Or if he had, his need to judge people whose views threatened his own overshadowed his ability to listen. Perhaps its a form of "Confirmation Bias," where maybe he just tended to only associate with people or remember things about them that reinforce his own views because he is human, and as a result just doesn't know people who have serious doubts or perhaps ignores those doubts and as a result doesn't know the people as complete human beings. When you allow yourself not to know someone, you remove the possibility of loving them in a concrete way that would actually matter as much to the person on the receiving end. You could easily love them as abstractions whom you wish to have plenty of calories and shelter, but not the kind of love where the person feels you know who they are, what matters to them, and can sympathize with the personal goals and ideals they have that separate them as an individual from all of humanity.
Even though I tend to be somewhat terrified of establishing real human connections to the people around me on a daily basis, I value the small ways that I can find to give myself a human connection to people whose lives are hurt by the way the word exists. So I can read a biography about a civil rights lawyer and start to imagine the inner mind set and priorities of people to whom the events of the civil rights movement weren't simply a mildly interesting past. I can learn to identify how my own mind has been poisoned by a subconscious racism and start to question how that makes me relate to the class Teaching Assistant or to the man sitting next to me at the airport. I've listened to how homosexuals can describe a quest for self actualization and acceptance using arguments that are exact mirrors of what I might use to describe a need for self actualization and acceptance for autistics and start to let go of fear and question just how concrete the barriers that supposedly divide us are. Then, when coworkers start berating a bisexual employee who just came out of the closet at work, I can realize that that employee is doing a kind of reaching into darkness that I might do when I take a chance on letting someone know that I am on the autistic spectrum. There are many kinds of closets to come out of, and people who have shared a sense of isolation and darkness can help each other out.
I can read accounts of women whose quests for self fulfillment have been hampered on so many sides by a society that historically has made a lot of choices for them to benefit someone else. Then, when I hear someone say that perhaps the world needs to be changed to loosen things up a bit I can see and hear the idea with eyes and ears not just my own, but also of the people who have been hurt. I can talk to friends and family members who have doubts or who have abandoned faith and cherish having a chance to know a little bit more of who they are, not just who the talks given by church leaders and members say they should be.
That isn't to say that I am particularly skilled at listening and loving. I'm fully capable of being an ignorant oaf and am poor at regulating the perceptions I broadcast to other people. I can count plenty of occasions when I've been trying to connect to people and what came out was more or less horrible. But I feel if I don't try I won't simply be stumbling into the occasional serious social error, I actually will be horrible.
If we cut ourselves off from listening to those who we don't understand or don't lack overt differences with we fail to know them and instead know only the false images of them we create in our mind to provide for our own mental security. We can never fully know another person just as we can never fully know ourselves. But, to the extent that we are willfully ignorant of other people, we cannot love them.
Saturday, December 1, 2012
Thoughts on the DSM 5
So its been announced finally that the DSM V will definitely merge the autism and Asperger syndrome diagnosis. As someone who would never have been diagnosed without Asperger syndrome being split into its own grouping, I'm kind of sad to see the name go. There were a lot of positive cultural things that happened around the Asperger syndrome label with people who wrote books or made movies or made websites showing how there were some people who are different and its not all a bad thing. Sure, sometimes there is crazy negativity that goes along with anything like this, which for me including not being allowed to serve a mission, a deep sense of social isolation at church from being excluded from the social bonding of being able to share mission experiences, being afraid of ignorant judgmental people at church, and a family member who seemed convinced Asperger syndrome really meant some kind of blend between Frotteurism and antisocial personality disorder. But the negatives for me were really outweighed by finally figuring out what was going on inside my head, gaining a vocabulary to explain myself to other people, and discovering a community of people for whom experiences like mine weren't unique. It went from feeling like my life represented some kind of isolated freakshow to understanding that there were many people like me who had joined together to form ways to build self respect.
The passing of the label will have a minimal influence on me personally. I rarely talk about it to anyone I know in person and I can on a surface level pass as normal most of the time. When I do talk about it the extra work of defining Asperger syndrome typically outweighs the feeling of risk that no one will believe me if I said I was autistic. I can typically get away with saying that I'm what it looks like when you have a case of autism that is mild enough that at this stage in life you'd have to know me well to tell it was there. I can pass well enough as normal and can be am picky enough about who I disclose to I can afford that. I can definitely sympathize with people whose symptom obviousness or the choices of their caretakers prevent them enjoying such control over who knows and who doesn't.
Hopefully society will stop demonizing the condition as a way to do fundraising for their organizations and people will start to realize that when you have met one autistic you really have only met one autistic. Maybe the world will stop having so many biases against and constraints on the disabled so that the label will be less of a stigma. The name change leaves plenty to be afraid of, assuming we don't make for ourselves a better world.
The passing of the label will have a minimal influence on me personally. I rarely talk about it to anyone I know in person and I can on a surface level pass as normal most of the time. When I do talk about it the extra work of defining Asperger syndrome typically outweighs the feeling of risk that no one will believe me if I said I was autistic. I can typically get away with saying that I'm what it looks like when you have a case of autism that is mild enough that at this stage in life you'd have to know me well to tell it was there. I can pass well enough as normal and can be am picky enough about who I disclose to I can afford that. I can definitely sympathize with people whose symptom obviousness or the choices of their caretakers prevent them enjoying such control over who knows and who doesn't.
Hopefully society will stop demonizing the condition as a way to do fundraising for their organizations and people will start to realize that when you have met one autistic you really have only met one autistic. Maybe the world will stop having so many biases against and constraints on the disabled so that the label will be less of a stigma. The name change leaves plenty to be afraid of, assuming we don't make for ourselves a better world.
Monday, November 19, 2012
A right to refuse to cooperate?
There has been some conflict in recently times over how much people in society should have a right to refuse to cooperate with any health care or social service they disagree with. For example whether insurance companies or employers can refuse to provide medical insurance for contraception or whether pharmacists can refuse to dispense the "morning after pill." In a perfect world everyone would have so many options for their employment, doctors, and pharmacies that it would be easy to only form relationships with people you already agree with. But its not a perfect world. Sometimes because of work constraints there many only be one or two options in insurance companies you can deal with, only so many employers you can work for, and pharmacies you can visit. So a right to refuse to cooperate can easily translate into a right to make it nearly impossible for someone else to receive what they believe is desirable for themselves. For example, while a pharmacist who believes the morning after bill is infanticide might feel very uncomfortable or conflicted about dispensing it, a rape victim may only have a short period of time to find someone who will give it to them before the drugs effectiveness starts to fail.
So where does my perspective fall on all of this? Its hard to talk about this much in detail because at my job its considered that they can fire you if you mention online all the details of your employment. But lets just say I provide customer service and technical support for a company that is a household name, someplace that normal everyday people do business with because they have to in order to function in our modern society. And occasionally my job involves helping people purchase or troubleshoot their ability to access pornography.
First off some might question whether this is awkward for me. And the answer is it can be at many levels. Including:
So what do I think about a purported right to refuse to cooperate? I don't think it would make my job any easier. Even if it was technically legal for me to refuse to help people watch porn or R rated movies that I thought were too risque, I'd have to deal with a lot of angry customers whose lives would be made more difficult by having to call in that many more times just to get a customer service representative who would offer service instead of a sermon. Can you imagine having to call through an automated system that asked you "to ensure the fewest transfers as possible, please take this survey so we can match your customer service need to an agent who is ideologically affiliated with you"? Logistically it would blow up so fast that I probably wouldn't even be able to get the job unless I was willing to sign a document agreeing to service anyone no matter what they needed, just like many employers won't hire employees who refuse to work on Sundays.
Many might argue that medical professionals are more morally culpable for their involvement with a patients body than I am involved with what my customers do in their spare time. And perhaps that isn't unfair in some cases, but that is why doctors and professionals are expected to select services they are willing to perform. You can't be a pharmacist without the possibility of dispensing many different drugs. A OB/GYN occasionally might have to perform an emergency abortion to save the life of the mother but normally has the option to avoid specializing in abortion procedures. An insurance company can hardly expect to be able to only service people whose ideals match their CEO (anybody want an insurance company executive who belongs to Scientology or Seventh Day Adventist dictating what gets covered?). And while employers might offer health insurance subsidization to attract employees, they shouldn't expect to be able to exercise financial leverage over their employees religious or medical choices. As I said earlier, in a perfect world everything would be so flexible that you could immediately be perfectly served only by people who agreed with you. That kind of perfection doesn't exist. We live in a world where people are free to make up their own minds and part of dealing with that is not always agreeing. Sure there is room for compromise and flexibility in how we all live together, but not much absolutism.
I am reminded of a quote from Martin Luther King Jr. where he said, “Whatever your life's work is, do it well. A man should do his job so well that the living, the dead, and the unborn could do it no better.” When I go to a hospital I shouldn't have to worry if the nurse is worried about being fired if she puts my wife's life ahead of a pregnancy. When I go to the pharmacy I should expect the pharmacist to represent that role, not his opinions about whether birth control is against the will of God. If I have to constantly worry about which service provider might have which opinions so that I can be free to exercise my privilege to live as I choose in a free land, I'm not free, and the service providers aren't doing their job well. Meantime, I'll keep processing orders for my customers porn with a polite smile on my face.
So where does my perspective fall on all of this? Its hard to talk about this much in detail because at my job its considered that they can fire you if you mention online all the details of your employment. But lets just say I provide customer service and technical support for a company that is a household name, someplace that normal everyday people do business with because they have to in order to function in our modern society. And occasionally my job involves helping people purchase or troubleshoot their ability to access pornography.
First off some might question whether this is awkward for me. And the answer is it can be at many levels. Including:
- It can be heartbreaking to take a call for a mother or a wife who is desperately trying to find out if their spouse is secretly using porn when we were the company that is selling the stuff to their son or husband.
- Its a fine line to walk when they are certain their family members couldn't possibly have betrayed them that way and I have to break it to them that even if I don't know who was at the controls we have proof that it was ordered and I can't credit back the hundreds of dollars that were ran up.
- Occasionally customers ask that I give recommendations on which porn they might enjoy or if I have any suggestions on what they should purchase.
- I've had to explain to people that just because I'm here to help doesn't mean that I can help them figure out which titles will include lesbian vs heterosexual sex acts or possibly be produced by one porn company compared to another. Other than reading through large numbers of titles (which is time prohibitive) and making educated guesses, I honestly don't even have that sort of information most of the time.
- I even had an illiterate man call in once who explained that because he could not read he needed me to read him all the porn titles I had one by one until he found one that he liked so that I could place his order for him.
- I seem to recall once even having a customer ask me something along the lines of whether we had any sex videos involving Asians and then proceed to ask me if I was Asian. Just because I'm tolerating talking to you about your pornographic preferences doesn't mean I moonlight as a professional porn actor, thanks for asking. Lets not even get into how they misjudged my accent and possibly my gender (somehow a male tenor voice comes across the phone call sounding like as female a good part of the time no matter how many times I tell them my name).
- I am almost never exposed to the actual content other than in the title of the item in question.
- Most customers are willing to make their purchase and move on without expecting me to have an extended conversation with them about it (couldn't say if my female coworkers have the same experience).
- Many callers express that they are perfectly ok with their adult sons visiting them ordering this stuff as long as the son coughs up a contribution to the bill to make up for it.
- Very few of my customer interactions center around this
- Most people are o.k. with me not reading every porn title on their bill to them. They don't mind just me mentioning what kind of movie it is if the title didn't make it obvious enough.
- Most people self service their own purchases and often only need me to troubleshoot their ability to complete such purchases.
So what do I think about a purported right to refuse to cooperate? I don't think it would make my job any easier. Even if it was technically legal for me to refuse to help people watch porn or R rated movies that I thought were too risque, I'd have to deal with a lot of angry customers whose lives would be made more difficult by having to call in that many more times just to get a customer service representative who would offer service instead of a sermon. Can you imagine having to call through an automated system that asked you "to ensure the fewest transfers as possible, please take this survey so we can match your customer service need to an agent who is ideologically affiliated with you"? Logistically it would blow up so fast that I probably wouldn't even be able to get the job unless I was willing to sign a document agreeing to service anyone no matter what they needed, just like many employers won't hire employees who refuse to work on Sundays.
Many might argue that medical professionals are more morally culpable for their involvement with a patients body than I am involved with what my customers do in their spare time. And perhaps that isn't unfair in some cases, but that is why doctors and professionals are expected to select services they are willing to perform. You can't be a pharmacist without the possibility of dispensing many different drugs. A OB/GYN occasionally might have to perform an emergency abortion to save the life of the mother but normally has the option to avoid specializing in abortion procedures. An insurance company can hardly expect to be able to only service people whose ideals match their CEO (anybody want an insurance company executive who belongs to Scientology or Seventh Day Adventist dictating what gets covered?). And while employers might offer health insurance subsidization to attract employees, they shouldn't expect to be able to exercise financial leverage over their employees religious or medical choices. As I said earlier, in a perfect world everything would be so flexible that you could immediately be perfectly served only by people who agreed with you. That kind of perfection doesn't exist. We live in a world where people are free to make up their own minds and part of dealing with that is not always agreeing. Sure there is room for compromise and flexibility in how we all live together, but not much absolutism.
I am reminded of a quote from Martin Luther King Jr. where he said, “Whatever your life's work is, do it well. A man should do his job so well that the living, the dead, and the unborn could do it no better.” When I go to a hospital I shouldn't have to worry if the nurse is worried about being fired if she puts my wife's life ahead of a pregnancy. When I go to the pharmacy I should expect the pharmacist to represent that role, not his opinions about whether birth control is against the will of God. If I have to constantly worry about which service provider might have which opinions so that I can be free to exercise my privilege to live as I choose in a free land, I'm not free, and the service providers aren't doing their job well. Meantime, I'll keep processing orders for my customers porn with a polite smile on my face.
Sunday, November 18, 2012
Exploring the conflict between Science and Religion
As an introduction to this post, most of what follows I actually wrote as a response to a discussion prompt for a class two semesters ago, as have several other blog posts I've done. So if this seems kind of out of the blue it is. I just really like what I wrote up so I figured I'd re use it.
The real point of incompatibility between science and religion is
the type of logic used by each. Since 1620 when Francis Bacon wrote Novum Organum
science was reoriented to be based on inductive logic where (simply
put) you take observations, make tentative assumptions based on
observation, and then test the assumptions by more observations.
Previous scientists had made observations but the scientific method
didn't really start to be worked out till Bacon.
Religion, on the other hand, is based more essentially on deductive logic as developed by Aristotle. A series of spiritual experiences or beliefs are taken as assumptions and then conclusions are made based on those assumptions. Occasionally the assumptions might be revised by a new spiritual experience or from some other cultural source of information but generally speaking the foundational assumptions are not supposed to change. If anything is encountered which seems to contradict the assumptions then the typical doctrinal response is to ignore it as invalid on its face because it contradicts the assumptions, contradict it by interpreting the assumptions in a more complicated way, or to make more and more complicated interpretations of the assumptions to allow the apparent contradiction to disappear.
Science using inductive logic never assumes it has a completely true and exact assumption but by testing and revising the assumptions a lot over time they become useful or probably mostly true. Religion using a more deductive style of logic assumes it has achieved at least some things that are completely true and exactly correct. It is more or less assumed that given time that other truths can be discovered by exploring the complexities and consequences of those original assumptions.
At least as far as traditional biblical interpretation is concerned we have many cases where there is apparent contradiction between science and religion. How individuals handle that can vary a lot. I don't have any easy answers. Over my life I've had a lot of people who tried to reassure me of my faith by telling me a folklore version of science that was easier to disbelieve or where the contradictions didn't exist. Like claiming neanderthals and humans didn't overlap in time and that humans don't appear in the fossil record till the time that the bible says they should. I think that's a practice that we should try to avoid. It seems almost unavoidable that such folklore sciences will show up because as long as normal people try to figure out science they are bound to make mistakes or make stuff up to fill the gaps in their memory or understanding. But as much as we can I think we should avoid putting words in scientists mouths to reassure ourselves.
There's no easy way to tell science and religion to make nice and stop fighting because a typical religious doctrine system has no inherent logical path to rapidly reform itself when new evidence shows up. Science has no inherent logical mechanism to adapt to new religious ideas nor any way to judge which religion's ideas should be incorporated. They are based on two completely different logic systems so it wouldn't really make sense for them to immediately cross fertilize each other. If you aren't supposed to contradict the assumptions it takes a lot of time for the assumptions to disappear before you can ignore them. It wasn't until 1822 (per wikipedia ) that the Catholic Church stopped the ban of printing "heliocentric books in Rome". That's a grand delay of nearly 300 years after Copernicus published in 1543. Granted its not always that slow, I think when I read one of Stephen Hawking's books (sorry I can't say which I read several) that he said the Catholic church almost immediately gave doctrinal support to his work on the Big Bang because they thought it was easy to reconcile the big bang with the idea of God having created the Universe. Having already dismissed biblical literalism from their astronomy they were open to further change. On other subjects literalism is still more or less the official interpretation (depending on which religion you adhere to). Its always possible that science on any given subject will turn out to be partially or extremely wrong. Science isn't supposed to give us absolute truth so we can never rule that out. Its always possible that the range of subjects on which religions will judge their traditional beliefs to be unsupportable will expand and that in 100 years our descendents will look back on us and laugh with scorn about how crazy we were and how we just didn't realize that a few more parts of our belief systems were obviously expendable. I think the best thing to do would be for each side to be tolerant of each other and pick their fights as respectfully and as humbly as possible. Science is most certainly not representing absolute truth because its not meant to do so. On the other hand, there is probably no belief system with a long history where we couldn't look at the early history and find beliefs contradicted by their later history. Just take the Old Testament statements about what to do with people with contradictory beliefs and behavior and compare that to the time immediately following the Reformation (lots of religious wars-kill the heretic and force them to believe) and then again with modern practice of Christians. Or look at New Testament statements about the spirituality and worth of women (1 Timothy 2:12-15 for example) and compare it with recent statements by LDS church leaders (I won't bother linking any, the statements that women are spiritually superior is so frequently repeated it doesn't bear citing). No matter whether you think its good or bad, no true contradiction, or happened for valid reasons and that both were right in their times, some doctrines change.
Religion, on the other hand, is based more essentially on deductive logic as developed by Aristotle. A series of spiritual experiences or beliefs are taken as assumptions and then conclusions are made based on those assumptions. Occasionally the assumptions might be revised by a new spiritual experience or from some other cultural source of information but generally speaking the foundational assumptions are not supposed to change. If anything is encountered which seems to contradict the assumptions then the typical doctrinal response is to ignore it as invalid on its face because it contradicts the assumptions, contradict it by interpreting the assumptions in a more complicated way, or to make more and more complicated interpretations of the assumptions to allow the apparent contradiction to disappear.
Science using inductive logic never assumes it has a completely true and exact assumption but by testing and revising the assumptions a lot over time they become useful or probably mostly true. Religion using a more deductive style of logic assumes it has achieved at least some things that are completely true and exactly correct. It is more or less assumed that given time that other truths can be discovered by exploring the complexities and consequences of those original assumptions.
At least as far as traditional biblical interpretation is concerned we have many cases where there is apparent contradiction between science and religion. How individuals handle that can vary a lot. I don't have any easy answers. Over my life I've had a lot of people who tried to reassure me of my faith by telling me a folklore version of science that was easier to disbelieve or where the contradictions didn't exist. Like claiming neanderthals and humans didn't overlap in time and that humans don't appear in the fossil record till the time that the bible says they should. I think that's a practice that we should try to avoid. It seems almost unavoidable that such folklore sciences will show up because as long as normal people try to figure out science they are bound to make mistakes or make stuff up to fill the gaps in their memory or understanding. But as much as we can I think we should avoid putting words in scientists mouths to reassure ourselves.
There's no easy way to tell science and religion to make nice and stop fighting because a typical religious doctrine system has no inherent logical path to rapidly reform itself when new evidence shows up. Science has no inherent logical mechanism to adapt to new religious ideas nor any way to judge which religion's ideas should be incorporated. They are based on two completely different logic systems so it wouldn't really make sense for them to immediately cross fertilize each other. If you aren't supposed to contradict the assumptions it takes a lot of time for the assumptions to disappear before you can ignore them. It wasn't until 1822 (per wikipedia ) that the Catholic Church stopped the ban of printing "heliocentric books in Rome". That's a grand delay of nearly 300 years after Copernicus published in 1543. Granted its not always that slow, I think when I read one of Stephen Hawking's books (sorry I can't say which I read several) that he said the Catholic church almost immediately gave doctrinal support to his work on the Big Bang because they thought it was easy to reconcile the big bang with the idea of God having created the Universe. Having already dismissed biblical literalism from their astronomy they were open to further change. On other subjects literalism is still more or less the official interpretation (depending on which religion you adhere to). Its always possible that science on any given subject will turn out to be partially or extremely wrong. Science isn't supposed to give us absolute truth so we can never rule that out. Its always possible that the range of subjects on which religions will judge their traditional beliefs to be unsupportable will expand and that in 100 years our descendents will look back on us and laugh with scorn about how crazy we were and how we just didn't realize that a few more parts of our belief systems were obviously expendable. I think the best thing to do would be for each side to be tolerant of each other and pick their fights as respectfully and as humbly as possible. Science is most certainly not representing absolute truth because its not meant to do so. On the other hand, there is probably no belief system with a long history where we couldn't look at the early history and find beliefs contradicted by their later history. Just take the Old Testament statements about what to do with people with contradictory beliefs and behavior and compare that to the time immediately following the Reformation (lots of religious wars-kill the heretic and force them to believe) and then again with modern practice of Christians. Or look at New Testament statements about the spirituality and worth of women (1 Timothy 2:12-15 for example) and compare it with recent statements by LDS church leaders (I won't bother linking any, the statements that women are spiritually superior is so frequently repeated it doesn't bear citing). No matter whether you think its good or bad, no true contradiction, or happened for valid reasons and that both were right in their times, some doctrines change.
"Family Life" education
A while back there was a bill proposed in Utah that would have allowed school districts to opt out of teaching any sexual education and prohibit (if I recall) any mention of contraception. After a great deal of controversy, it became clear via polls and public outcry that the plan did not have public support. It was passed by the legislature, vetoed by the governor, and in the following election the man who introduced the bill lost his re election bid.
To put context on this, Utah law already bans encouraging contraception use (though not mentioning that it exists) and parents are allowed to opt their children out of sexual education as it exists. The sexual education as it exists will depend on the school district, I believe my wife stated that the only sexual education done in her school district was a quick meeting where they told you to anticipate the development of secondary sex characteristics. And that was it. Not much to opt out of.
The debates on the subject of how much sexual education to put in school often seem to come back to the idea that we are afraid of "giving kids ideas." The thing is, kids have dumb ideas all the time without any adult having to tell them about anything. It reminds me of a job I had doing customer service for a cell phone company. There were countless parents who called in shocked that there was an enormous charge on their bill showing that their child had been using text messaging. They often tried to claim that their child didn't know how to text message because they hadn't taught them how. My coworkers and I used to jokingly tell these parents that if their kids are in school, have friends, and have a phone they know how to text. Nobody has to show them how for them to figure it out. Similarly, teenagers have all the relevant anatomy, the correct hormones, and coed environments. Even if nobody tells them "how" to go about getting pregnant reliably, teenagers inherently have all the ingredients necessary to have lots of clueless sexual interaction. On top of that we live in a rather sexually obsessed and saturated culture. Not talking about sex only makes it so that the doors of communication between the school or parents and the child on the subject are shut, it doesn't actually keep the child from receiving lots of sexual communication, much of it unhealthy and attached to negative social stereotypes and roles.
Certainly sex ed is awkward. Even though I never attended it in public school myself (parental opt out), I had to deal with classmates who were trying to find a way to relate to all the new information that was dumped on them and in a poorly disciplined classroom this led to several awkward moments where students sat around discussing whether their bodies were mature enough to achieve ejaculation or drew pictures of penises (with smiley faces) on the blackboard. The solution to awkwardness isn't to run away though, and in the situations in which I grew up, better discipline in the classroom could have solved most of the problems.
I tend to view sex ed for teenagers like drivers ed. We expect children to grow up and probably use a car daily in navigating their world. Learning to drive isn't automatic like learning to breathe, so we have drivers ed requirements where society does something to help make sure everybody knows the basics to help keep them safe. Similarly we hope that children will grow up, form relationships, and have families (or shall we say it, we hope they will have sex) as part of a normal emotionally healthy life. Overwhelmingly, the human goal in life isn't celibacy. There is nothing automatic about learning to have healthy relationships with emotionally and physically satisfying sex in them. There are plenty of parts the schools certainly can't help with, but plenty they can. Just like we don't raise children with a goal in life that they should be unable to drive, we should stop talking about sex ed as if the goal for our children was for them to be celibate. Sure there are limits on that. We don't put toddlers in drivers ed and we don't include nascar driving or drag racing in the list of skills for teenagers to master for their drivers license. Similarly, we can choose what information to give to teenagers in sex ed. There is no reason we need or want teenagers to be able to recite the Kama Sutra or recite all the sex tips that were talked about in last weeks grocery store magazines. But some basics are a good thing to help them form safe and healthy relationships that we expect some day will be sexually satisfying. Since in our culture families and friends haven't been reliable sources of information (too scared, too embarrassed, too whatever it is) some teaching in schools can be a good thing.
To put context on this, Utah law already bans encouraging contraception use (though not mentioning that it exists) and parents are allowed to opt their children out of sexual education as it exists. The sexual education as it exists will depend on the school district, I believe my wife stated that the only sexual education done in her school district was a quick meeting where they told you to anticipate the development of secondary sex characteristics. And that was it. Not much to opt out of.
The debates on the subject of how much sexual education to put in school often seem to come back to the idea that we are afraid of "giving kids ideas." The thing is, kids have dumb ideas all the time without any adult having to tell them about anything. It reminds me of a job I had doing customer service for a cell phone company. There were countless parents who called in shocked that there was an enormous charge on their bill showing that their child had been using text messaging. They often tried to claim that their child didn't know how to text message because they hadn't taught them how. My coworkers and I used to jokingly tell these parents that if their kids are in school, have friends, and have a phone they know how to text. Nobody has to show them how for them to figure it out. Similarly, teenagers have all the relevant anatomy, the correct hormones, and coed environments. Even if nobody tells them "how" to go about getting pregnant reliably, teenagers inherently have all the ingredients necessary to have lots of clueless sexual interaction. On top of that we live in a rather sexually obsessed and saturated culture. Not talking about sex only makes it so that the doors of communication between the school or parents and the child on the subject are shut, it doesn't actually keep the child from receiving lots of sexual communication, much of it unhealthy and attached to negative social stereotypes and roles.
Certainly sex ed is awkward. Even though I never attended it in public school myself (parental opt out), I had to deal with classmates who were trying to find a way to relate to all the new information that was dumped on them and in a poorly disciplined classroom this led to several awkward moments where students sat around discussing whether their bodies were mature enough to achieve ejaculation or drew pictures of penises (with smiley faces) on the blackboard. The solution to awkwardness isn't to run away though, and in the situations in which I grew up, better discipline in the classroom could have solved most of the problems.
I tend to view sex ed for teenagers like drivers ed. We expect children to grow up and probably use a car daily in navigating their world. Learning to drive isn't automatic like learning to breathe, so we have drivers ed requirements where society does something to help make sure everybody knows the basics to help keep them safe. Similarly we hope that children will grow up, form relationships, and have families (or shall we say it, we hope they will have sex) as part of a normal emotionally healthy life. Overwhelmingly, the human goal in life isn't celibacy. There is nothing automatic about learning to have healthy relationships with emotionally and physically satisfying sex in them. There are plenty of parts the schools certainly can't help with, but plenty they can. Just like we don't raise children with a goal in life that they should be unable to drive, we should stop talking about sex ed as if the goal for our children was for them to be celibate. Sure there are limits on that. We don't put toddlers in drivers ed and we don't include nascar driving or drag racing in the list of skills for teenagers to master for their drivers license. Similarly, we can choose what information to give to teenagers in sex ed. There is no reason we need or want teenagers to be able to recite the Kama Sutra or recite all the sex tips that were talked about in last weeks grocery store magazines. But some basics are a good thing to help them form safe and healthy relationships that we expect some day will be sexually satisfying. Since in our culture families and friends haven't been reliable sources of information (too scared, too embarrassed, too whatever it is) some teaching in schools can be a good thing.
Thursday, October 25, 2012
Truth is hard to say
Watching General Conference has been a reminder of the
humanity of the General Authorities.
Errors of emphasis routinely occur, doctrinal mishaps spring up in
statements, and in general there are just things that are hard to say correctly. By error of emphasis I mean statements that
are largely true but by making them without a variety of correcting statements
what comes out is a problematic overgeneralization. Some doctrinal mishaps are about as important
as spilled milk. Remembering some from
this last conference (Elder Perkins, Priesthood session) King David likely didn’t
have an ‘eternal family’ that he lost because there is no scriptural indication
that eternal family sealings were being performed at the time (especially since the Melchizedek priesthood was not held broadly or commonly, if at all) nor did King David “squander”
his ‘priesthood’ because he wasn’t a priest.
Othertimes the mishaps may not be really meant, but taking statements as
literally true could only drive one into bizzare doctrinal “off roading” like a
previous conference where a man stated that he was the final arbiter and judge
in his family of what right and wrong were.
All he meant to say was that he should have the right to read his
children’s picture books the way he liked, but what came out was something
having a lot more to do with cultural expectations of the past rather than LDS
doctrine that would even stand a basic comparison with, say, the covenant
structure of the temple.
Overall, truth is hard to say. There is almost no basic practice or idea
that doesn’t have some obvious counter example.
Take the church principle that one can only receive revelation for those
under your stewardship. This is a well
established church principle whose effect is that not any person off the street
can tell the church what to do and that personal revelation doesn’t give you
power to undermine church power structures.
Seems well thought out, logical, even inevitable. But to whom did Jesus first give the
revelation of his ressurrected person?
To a woman not part of the priesthood power structure. He told her to carry this revelation to the
twelve. They dismissed her and Christ
had to reveal himself multiple times to get the point across, when the original
revelation had come outside the power structure. Knowing this counter example, there is no way
we can say the principle of limited personal revelation is TRUTH in an absolute
sense. If it is TRUTH in an absolute
sense, it comes along with a bunch of rules and intricate exceptions that just
haven’t been revealed and honestly 99% of the time probably don’t matter.
Or take the example of the infallibility of the president of
the church. This doctrine came fairly
early, with the basic premise being that
if the President of the church ever lead the church astray God would
essentially kill the prophet to allow him to be replaced. Seems logical, I mean there has to be
somebody with whom the buck stops. There
is even a scriptural example to go along with it of a prophet who has received
an injunction to not eat any food during a particular journey, but partakes
anyways and is almost immediately killed, I think by lions. However, that is not the only example. Moses misleads the children of Isreal by
misperforming the designated ritual to bring water to the people in the desert. God doesn’t kill him, but ensures he does not
enter the promised land. It suggests
that the whole do it perfect or drop dead rule has a lot of ins and outs and
grey area. Generally speaking we can
accept the inspiration of the church leaders and trust what they say. But, given the counter example it would be
rediculous to consider every word of the President of the church as absolute TRUTH as if it has just falled
from the lips of the God. When it comes
down to it, TRUTH is as hard to say completely as individuals are
unique.
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